Trump on Roe v. Wade: 'You Never Know How That's Gonna Turn Out'

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In an interview with Fox News, the president did his best to hold his cards close to his vest as to whether he’s vetting Supreme Court nominees based on their position on overturning Roe v. Wade—which is to say, he was extremely candid about his administration’s strategy.


“Are you going to ask your nominees beforehand how they might vote on Roe v. Wade?” Fox News host Maria Bartiromo asked Trump.

“Well that’s a big one, probably not,” he replied, nodding to the apparent fact that his advisors are pushing him to keep his nominee’s abortion views tactfully ambiguous—as certain GOP senators claim weakly to believe in precedent, and assert inaccurately that Justice Gorsuch respects precedent—so that Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski will confirm them to the Supreme Court, where they can can then promptly deprive people in conservative states of the right to a safe and legal abortion. “They’re all saying, don’t do that, don’t do that, you shouldn’t do that. But I’m putting conservative people on,” Trump said.

Bartiromo noted that on the campaign trail, Trump had said he’d advocated leaving abortion rights up to the states, i.e. overturning Roe.

“Well, maybe someday it will be [up] to the states, you never know how that’s gonna turn out, that’s a very complex question,” he replied. “But we’ll see what happens.”

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Ellie is a freelance writer and former senior writer at Jezebel. She is pursuing a master's degree in science journalism at Columbia University in the fall.



My Trump-loving Father and I got into our monthly blow up yesterday about this very thing. He had the nerve to call me delusional for saying that R v. W is gonna be one of the first things our new republican overlords will go after. He told me to “get off the script” for saying this administration is coming for us gays and our audacious request to be treated equally under the law... and all I could say in return that it must be nice to not feel afraid.

“Must be nice, Dad, to feel so fucking secure in your rights. I wouldn’t know what that feels like, seeing as how I just barely got the right to marry Shane.” His response? “That won’t ever happen, the democrats are just stirring up their base with fear. The democrats are the violent ones! Where do you think all the violence is coming from? You can’t blame republicans for taking anyone’s rights away, that’s what democrats do. Get off the script!” (He does love his Rush Limbaugh catchphrases).

I’m at a loss. I don’t know how to talk to my Dad anymore. If he doesn’t like the sound of a fact, he calls it fake now. I don’t understand how my kind, caring, sensitive Dad has become such an empty-headed, blind supporter of such a dangerous mind-set within the last few years. Obama as president brought something hideous out of him and his political party, and it’s scary. And depressing, because I’ve lost so much respect for my Dad, which *hurts* to even write. He’s literally chanted “Build the wall” to me before, and repeated it just the other day. I’m at a loss... I don’t know how to defend myself or my views against someone so utterly, willfully blind. :-(((

Last thing I said to him was, “You have no one else to blame now. You guys control the reps, the senate, the white house, the judiciary, the governerships AND the supreme court. Everything that happens from this point forward will be your fault, because there’s no one left for you fuckers to point your fingers at. You can’t blame democrats or judges or brown people anymore, so when my husband and I suffer the consequence you will absolutely be to blame, and I’ll do my damndest to remind you of it.”