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In an interview with Time, Kellyanne Conway discussed the lack of leadership roles in the Republican party—can you believe it?—when she got her start in politics, describing working for the GOP as a woman in the 1990s as like “walking into the men’s locker room at the Elks Club holding a bachelor party.”

She credits her “comfort level” in the GOP, which led to her rise to the position of, as she puts it, “the highest ranking non-relative female in his White House,” right next to her main man, to her ability “to think like a man and to behave like a lady.”

Conway goes on to talk about her kids in the interview, saying, “In explaining how I feel about one thing that Donald Trump said of did to my daughters, I would be remiss in not revealing the full conversation,” which is not a reference to explaining “pussygate” to her kids, but to how, if her children understood the full story, they’d get why Clinton was not someone Conway could support:

I would tell them that I respect very much that Secretary Clinton was running for president, and it showed that in this country, anybody can do anything if they set their mind to it. At the same time, I tried to explain to them that you could be excited for someone with whom you disagree, and share in that moment in history as a proud American.

Indeed, this is thinking like a man.

The interview is one in a series called “Firsts,” which is intended to highlight women who have climbed to the “highest reaches of success,” and Conway is labeled “The Advisor” for being the firs woman to run a winning presidential campaign. Time is shouting out “women who are changing the world,” but have not specified “for the better.” I guess that’s why it includes Conway.