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Jared Kushner sat down with Fox News’s Laura Ingraham for a rare interview on Monday night; in it, the senior advisor to the president discussed security clearances, the Russia investigation, the 2020 presidential election, and his hollow dedication to criminal justice reform.

But it was hard to focus on what Kushner was actually saying while his body was positioned like a haunted ventriloquist dummy:

He can move his mouth:

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And his hands—ever so slightly. He sits like a posh Victorian child. A ghost child?

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His hands shifted. What does it mean?

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Someone... free him!