Say you used to have a job at a large and well-respected nonprofit, one that advocates for people with a poorly-understood disorder. Then, some time later, you find yourself working for Donald Trump, a glistening, shouting gristle mass with a history of saying terrible and stupid things. Does that create some awkward situations? Let’s find out right now!

Elizabeth Emken is Donald Trump’s newest spokeswoman, a shiny and well-spoken professional Republican tasked with putting a non-insane face on the Trump campaign. Emken ran unsuccessfully for the Senate in California in 2012; she is also the former Vice President for Government Relations at Autism Speaks, the largest nonprofit focused on combatting autism.

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Unfortunately for everyone, Donald Trump thinks maybe autism is caused by vaccines. It’s not, but he’s repeated and retweeted the idea dozens of times over the years:

You get the idea.

So that created a delicate situation for Emken on CNN Monday, when she appeared on Newsroom and was asked about her new boss’s bad opinions. Watch how carefully she threaded this terrible needle:

“The position of autism speaks has been, for quite a while, that we need to find out what’s going on,” she said. That said: “We don’t know” what causes it, she added. But we do know it’s not vaccines, Elizabeth. Or least we used to, before we went to work for Donald Trump.

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